Region D DMERC Advisory Committee & CIGNA Medicare
Conference Call
Monday, February 10, 2003
1:00pm (PST)
MINUTES

DAC Representatives:
Wade Hendrickson, Chair Cindy Coy Mark Ephraim
Ed Erickson Velma Goertzen Rick Graver
Mike Hayden David Hosman Zena Jacobi
Kay Johnson Janna Jurovich John Kenney
Connie Lind-Fraher Laura McIlvaine Joe McKnight
Carlos Reyes Leslie Riggs Kimberly Rogers-Bowers
Troy Paz Richard Pozesky Pat Spanel
Val Taylor Paul Webber
CIGNA Representatives:
Dr. Robert Hoover Melissa Atwood Faye Balsinger
Dolly Baughman Barbara Douglas Lisa Fix
Doug Frazier Melissa Hanson
Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) Representative:
Denise Ainscough, Provider Education & Training, Seattle, WA Regional Office
I. General Business
Gloria Peterson of the DAC conducted roll call for the DAC representatives. CIGNA & CMS
representatives announced their presence on the call.
Wade Hendrickson summarized a new position within the DAC entitled Asst. A-Team Leader
and defined their role.
The minutes from the previous meeting were approved.
II. Update from the Medical Director
Dr. Hoover, Region D DMERC Medical Director provided the following update:
April 1 or with the next CIGNA publication all policies will be republished to include
additional information and technical corrections. The updated policies will include the
EY modifier requirement and have a new format. One change to the format will be that
the revision history will now be located on the last line of the database.
The question was posed as to whether CIGNA will maintain a medical policy database.
Dr. Hoover indicated that the database is maintained by CMS in a joint effort with the
regional contractors. The database is located on the CMS website and will include all
bulletin articles with links to the applicable medical policies.
Dr. Hoover also solicited feedback from the DAC as to the user friendliness of the
CIGNA website with regards to the policies.
ICD 9 Coding Requirement – Dr. Hoover responded to agenda item V.d. that requested
an update on the ICD-9 coding requirement. He indicated that this issue has not been
resolved with CMS. Providers will be getting information on these changes in enough
time to implement these changes. Further information will be made available on the
CIGNA website and through its list serve.
Laura McIlvaine indicated that there is some confusion as to whether all ICD-9 codes
will need to be 5 digits. Dr. Hoover explained by example that not all codes will require 5
digits. He asked that providers be patient while clarification is being sought from CMS
and that providers not believe what they read until he releases the correct instructions. He
will send a press release to different trade publications when more details are known.
PCOM – Dr. Hoover indicated that this is still an issue being discussed between CIGNA
and CMS which may result in a change in the way the PCOM is organized. One option
discussed is that some members of the Education A-Team form the core of the PCOM
Advisory group. Dr. Hoover indicated that no decisions have been finalized and that as
options are considered, CIGNA will communicate with the DAC to ensure that the
PCOM AG and the DAC are able to continue to be valuable resources.
He indicated that CIGNA would contact Connie Lind-Fraher to discuss how the
Education A-Team could function within the PCOM.
Dr. Hoover also indicated that CIGNA would contact Ms. O’Neil with CMS before
calling Ms. Lind-Fraher to verify how the PCOM must be formed.
Wade Hendrickson requested that Dr. Hoover copy DAC central on the aforementioned
correspondence.
During his update Dr. Hoover responded to the remaining items under agenda item V. DAC
Policy Questions
. Following is in order of his response:
V.c. on the monthly verification of capped rental equipment. The statute says devices
billed must be reasonable and necessary and that providers must verify patient’s
continued use before billing. CIGNA can make suggestions to providers on ways to
verify patient usage, but CIGNA cannot mandate a specific way of documenting patient
usage.
The DAC asked for clarification on specifics of providers’ obligations and used examples
of recent audits. Dr. Hoover would not provide comments at this time without further
specifics. He asked that the DAC obtain specific examples with what divisions of CIGNA
providers have spoke to about this issue. After reviewing the examples Dr. Hoover would
communicate back to the DAC and educate CIGNA customer service.
V.b. Hard copy communication vs. electronic. Wade Hendrickson summarized that
providers have been receiving both hard copy and electronic communication. He asked
whether the duplication of information being distributed would be reduced.
Dr. Hoover responded that this similar issue was raised in Region B. He will send a copy
of CMS’ response to the DAC.
V.a. Non-payment of items billed by relatives of a beneficiary. Dr. Hoover indicated
that the Medicare Carriers Manual is very specific on this issue when it relates to a
physician dispensing to his or her self as a DME provider and billing the Medicare
program. He advised the DAC seek the opinion of CMS general council to be sure what
is or isn’t consistent with the law.
III. PET Update
Dolly Baughman reported that 120 new Webinars would be started between January and
September 2003. She reviewed some of the new topics for the Webinars. Ms. Baughman also
indicated that CIGNA would schedule face-to-face seminars Fall 2003.
Dr. Hoover took the opportunity to thank Dolly Baughman for her 18 years of service. Ms.
Baughman will retire from CIGNA on February 14. The DAC also thanked Dolly.
Wade Hendrickson asked Dr. Hoover if CIGNA has plans for staffing the CIGNA’s Provider
Relations Dept. He indicated that Frank Montero, CIGNA Director of Communication is working
on a new management structure. Dr. Hoover will get the information to the DAC as soon as it
becomes available.
VI. Review of Question and Answers
A. Medical Supplies A-Team
Pat Spanel, A-Team Leader stated that the Medical Supplies A-Team does not have any
comments.
B. Rehab A-Team
Rick Graver, A-Team Leader asked for clarifications on the following questions:
Question #6 - CIGNA’s response to this question was that the DAC should work with
CMS to resolve this issue. Rick asked if CMS were to include seating and positioning
products in the ADMC, would CIGNA be able to handle the volume of requests?
Dr. Hoover responded that the DAC should make its case with CMS to include these
items in the ADMC and leave it up to CMS to determine whether CIGNA can
incorporate this into the ADMC process.
Question #7 - Rick asked for further clarification in inconsistencies between CIGNA
custom service representatives’ (CSR) coding instruction to providers for customized
wheelchair cushions vs. coding instructions given by the SADMERC.
Dr. Hoover clarified that the SADMERC has the final say on how a claim should be
coded.
Question 2 of the previously submitted question – This question was in regards to
paperwork submission on claims that already have ADMC approval. Rick asked
whether pricing and medical documentation information has to be resubmitted with
the claim. Dr. Hoover clarified that the pricing information should be submitted with
the claim after it has been approved through ADMC. However, CIGNA does not
need the additional medical necessity information submitted with the claim.
Question 2 of the previously submitted questions – CIGNA permitted the DAC to
contact Lisa Fix to work with her on her abbreviations project.
C. EDI/EMC A-Team
Dolly Baughman stepped off the call briefly to return with two CIGNA EDI/EMC staff members,
Miranda and Mark. Upon their return Zena Jacobi, A-Team Leader asked for clarification on the
following issues:
Question 11b. – CIGNA reiterated that they have no plans to support .ZIP files. Zena
indicated that uncompressed files take much longer to transmit and that dialup
connections are often unreliable. She asked why CIGNA has decided not to support
this file format when it was previously supported under NSF.
Miranda indicated that she would have to follow-up with a response to Zena’s
question. Later in the call Miranda provided further feedback. She stated that CMS
does not require CIGNA accept .ZIP file format. CIGNA determined that it was not
cost effective under their contract agreement with CMS. CIGNA would recommend
that the DAC work with CMS on this issue.
Zena asked CIGNA for advise on the best approach to communicate this problem to
CMS. Dr. Hoover suggested that the DAC verify that this is a problem for multiple
providers and appeal before asking CMS to review the issue.
Mark also reported that CIGNA is working on other connectivity forums as an
alternative to direct dial-up, which may resolve some of the connection problems for
providers.
Question 12e. – Zena asked if electronic funds transfers will affect providers’ receipt
of paper EOBs. Miranda responded that it currently affects providers’ receipt of
paper EOBs. Providers will continue to maintain the option to choose.
D. Education / Communication
Connie Lind-Fraher, A-Team Leader thanked CIGNA for the completeness of its answers to the
DAC. They will be putting together some information in response to CIGNA’s answers and will
work with Doug Frazier through the PECOM.
E. Home Medical Equipment
Janna Jurovich, A-Team Leader stated that the HME A-Team does not have any follow-up with
CIGNA.
F. Orthotics & Prosthetics
Paul Webber, A-Team Leader commented on the following items:
Question 3 of the previously submitted questions on POS 61 – Comprehensive
Inpatient Rehabilitation Facility – Paul asked is CIGNA had any response from CMS
on their request for a copy of the regulation. Dr. Hoover has had no further
communication with CMS. Barbara Douglas has been asked to follow-up with CMS.
Paul further indicated the DAC’s concern over provider billing practices that may be
inappropriate based off of CIGNA’s original response to this issue. Dr. Hoover
suggested that it would be useful if the DAC could provide more details.
ACTION ITEM Paul Webber will e-mail Dr. Hoover more specifics.
Question 1 of the previously submitted questions regarding diabetic footwear - Paul
thanked Dr. Hoover for his work on this issue. Paul also indicated that he would pass
along some scope of practice material to Dr. Hoover on this issue.
Question 2 of the previously submitted questions regarding Ocular prosthesis
cleaning. Dr. Hoover reported that the Ocular prosthesis policy will be re-released in
April and will include two cleanings per year when appropriate.
G. Infusion Therapy
Mike Hayden thanked CIGNA for its support on the DAC NCPDP position paper. He also asked
if CIGNA has any further comments on the issue. Dr. Hoover declined to comment.
H. Respiratory
Joe McKnight also thanked CIGNA for its support of the position paper.
IV. New Business
Dr. Hoover asked if the DAC has set a date and time for the meeting at Medtrade Spring. Gloria
Peterson reported that a meeting room has been requested for May 7 from 3-5pm.
Dolly Baughman thanked the DAC for a good working relationship.
The meeting adjourned


Region D DMERC Advisory Committee
Meeting with CIGNA Medicare
Via Teleconference
August 11, 2003
�� 12:30pm (PST)
MINUTES

DAC Representatives:
Wade Hendrickson, Chair Violeta Arnobit Cindy Coy Ed Erickson
Velma Goertzen Adea Goselin Rick Graver Mike Hayden
David Hosman Zena Jacobi Kay Johnson Janna Jurovich
Connie Lind-Fraher Joe McKnight Sharon Nelson Traci Oswalt
Troy Paz Gloria Peterson Rich Pozesky Carlos Reyes
Leslie Riggs Kimberly Rogers-Bowers Pat Spanel
Barb Stockert Val Taylor Paul Webber
CIGNA Represenatives:
Robert Hoover, M.D. Kathy Brock Doug Frazier Mary Rheinecker
Tricia Luna Barbara Douglas
I. GENERAL BUSINESS
The meeting was called to order at 12:30pm (PST). Gloria Peterson conducted roll call of the DAC representatives, and the CIGNA representatives announced their participation on the call. Wade Henrickson reviewed the meeting protocol.
II. MEDICAL DIRECTOR UPDATE
Medical Director Dr. Hoover provided an update. He informed the DAC that five Local Medical Review Policy (LMRP) revisions are nearing completion. Three of these policies will be published in the fall newsletter – Motorized Power wheelchair Base, Surgical Dressings, and Home Dialysis Supplies and Equipment. He also reported that several policy revisions will be published in the winter and spring publications to address HCPCS code changes, many of which are a result of HIPAA coding requirements.
Two LMRPs have been finalized that have a January 1, 2004 effective date. They are Automatic External Defibrillators (AED) and Oxygen and Oxygen Equipment (He reported later in the meeting the date these medical policies would be available on-line, see Respiratory A-Team). Dr. Hoover indicated that the medical directors did not keep the requirement in the draft revision for retesting all Group I patients in the third month of oxygen therapy however, the issue of retesting may be revisited at a later date. The rationale for not including the retesting requirement was not clinical, but practicality issues of implementing the requirement.

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Dr. Hoover indicated that the DMERCs would be publishing a CMN grid and repair/replacement grid in their fall newsletters. He will provide the CMN grid to Doug Frazier who will forward it to the DAC.
Dr. Hoover thanked providers who responded to his recent requests for the names of their corporate compliance officers. He plans to use these names as contacts for education regarding Comprehensive Error Rate Testing (CERT) errors for failure of their branch officers/sites to provide documentation requested by Advance Med, the CERT contractor. Record request are made to comply with CERT requirements. He cautioned that Advance Med is tracking non-responses providers.
He also announced that CIGNA’s Medical Review department will have its own website. The website will include modules on CERT, education, and the results of wide-spread probe reviews that are conducted as part of the Progressive Correction Action process. The web site will likely be available in November or December of this year.
Dr. Hoover did not have an update on provider access to the Common Working File.
III. PROVIDER RELATIONS UPDATE
A. PET ISSUES

Doug Frazier provided an update on CIGNA’s Provider Education and Training. He indicated that the first face-to-face seminar this year is scheduled for August 19. Registration for these seminars are available on-line under the "Medicare Learning on Demand" section of the CIGNA website and include a credit card payment option. (payment by credit card is not an option at this time)
B. HIPAA PERPAREDNESS

Doug Frazier reported that 500 suppliers have received HIPAA education in the past two months. He reminded DAC representatives that providers’ software programs must be ANSI compliant by October 16, 2003.
Mr. Frazier reported that the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) would be hosting a HIPAA training teleconference on August 20 from 1:00pm – 12:30pm (CT). Providers will receive additional information via the CMS list-serve.
IV. A-TEAM LEADERS REIVEW OF QUESTIONS & ANSWERS

A. EDI/EMC
A-Team Leader Zena Jacobi expressed concern with regard to the time frame that CMS will take to respond to questions 1 and 5 of the Q&A. Doug Frazier responded that CMS has acknowledged that these are important and time sensitive issues. CIGNA will provide clarification to the DAC as soon as it is received from CMS. He also indicated that he would check with the CIGNA EDI manager to

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see if Ms. Jacobi can maintain an open line of communication with CIGNA on these issues.
(Question 1 Addendum: In a conference call with CMS on Thursday, August 28, 2003, Janice Nero-Phillips, with the CMS Office of Information Services (OIS), told the DMERC medical directors that CMS will issue an instruction to contractors to implement the PWK (paperwork) segment, which allows electronic billers to tell the recipient that additional hard copy documentation has been sent to accompany the electronically billed claim and how that documentation was sent (e.g., by mail). CMS does not expect this instruction to be implemented before April 2004. Contractors are not required to have a mechanism in place to accept and match up hard copy documentation for electronically submitted claims until the implementation date of this instruction. In the interim, it is acceptable for Medicare billers to submit paper claims when they need to submit additional documentation with the claim. CMS expects to have this exception to the electronic billing requirement published in writing in the mid-September to early-October timeframe.)
C. EDUCATION / COMMUNICATION

Connie Lind-Fraher asked questions about the following items:
Question #6 – Who within CIGNA is working with CMS on this issue and whether a timeframe has been established for resolving this issue? Barbara Douglas indicated that this issue would not likely be addressed in 2004; however, CIGNA will inquire with CMS on the timeframe. Ms. Lind-Fraher indicated that the DAC would leave this item as a standing item in the Q&A.
#8 – Are claims payments mailed to the address indicated on the claim or to the address contained in the Common Working File (CWF). Doug Frazier asked that the A-Team provide examples of the issue.
D. REHAB

A-Team Leader Rick Graver inquired about the following items:
#9 - Providers of powered mobility want to be able to gather ALL of the necessary information to document the medical necessity for the products they provide. We have been given a "not all-inclusive" list of the type of information, which will assist the DMERC in making a determination, and we appreciate the guidance. He request that CIGNA consider providing the DAC with any kind of template, flow chart, or guideline that can be used to better document the medical need.
Dr. Hoover responded that CIGNA would not expand upon the list provided. CIGNA does not deem any list of suggested medical documentation all-inclusive,

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as it would take away providers’ flexibility. He suggested that the DAC look through back issues of the DMERC Dialogue for additional items.
#10 - Rick asked for CIGNA’s definition of seating system and whether the DAC can have access to the information used to determine the pricing. He indicated providers’ concern that the HCPCS codes and fee schedules will become global (i.e. other insurance companies adopting them), leading to the provision of the most basic economy seating systems that can be provided under this fee schedule. Providers are concerned that a seating system (seat and back only) will be confused with a seating system that might include lateral trunk supports with hardware, headrest, lateral hip guides, medial thigh support, seat and back modifications, etc when being coded for reimbursement.
Barbara Douglas responded that the code includes a basic back and seat. Any additional or special features would be considered add-ons to this base code.
#11 – Mr. Graver asked whether CIGNA has the authority to implement a modifier that could be appended to a claim, which would indicate that medical necessity guidelines have been met and are on file. If so, this will assist electronic claims under HIPAA by keeping the HAO record within limits, and with clear coverage guidelines being met, the provider will have accepted responsibility for proper documentation when the modifier is used.
Dr. Hoover responded that it is feasible for the medical directors to implement a modifier for this purpose. He also mentioned that there are many new HCPCS codes for wheelchair accessories that are to be implemented January 1, 2004, which will hopefully reduce some of the additional documentation that is being submitted now. He will bring up the issue of a new modifier during the medical directors’ review of the policies.
E. HOME MEDICAL EQUIPMENT

Janna Jurovich, A-Team Leader indicated that the DAC is in the process of gathering examples for question #11. She also requested clarification to the following:
CIGNA's response: The supporting documentation required for POVs is addressed in a bulletin article published in the Summer 2002 DMERC Dialogue entitled "Documentation Requirements for Power Operated Vehicles (POVs) - Region D Change and Power Operated Vehicle local medical review policy in the DMERC Region D Supplier Manual. Additional information about medical records as documentation is found in the DMERC Region D Supplier Manual Chapter 3 & in the CMS Program Integrity Manual (PIM) Chapter 5, both in sections entitled "Documentation in the Patient's Medical Record." PIM Chapter 5, section 1.1.4.2 addresses DMERCs "authority to request to verify the information on a CMN at any time." The National Coverage Determination for POVs (Coverage Issues Manual 60-5) states "A specialist in physical medicine,

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orthopedic surgery, neurology, or rheumatology must provide an evaluation of the patient's medical and physical condition…"
Beginning in July 2003 we began using a "new and improved" letter for development of POV claims which we believe more clearly describes the type of information we are looking for. The letter states "We need additional documentation to determine if a power-operated vehicle (POV) is reasonable and necessary for this beneficiary. Please provide a dated and signed copy of the ordering physician's required evaluation of this patient's medical and physical condition relating to the need for a POV. For more information refer to the Power Operated Vehicles local medical review policy and/or the national coverage determination for POVs in the DMERC Region D Supplier Manual or on the Internet at: www.cignamedicare.com"
#13 – Ms. Jurovich asked if it is the correct interpretation to assume that providers that contact a patient and document continued use over a span of time (i.e., 6months to a year) would meet documentation requirements.
Dr. Hoover responded that this is an individual business decision. He cautioned that any time elapsed between the provider’s contact with the patient in an overpayment is determined would leave the provider with no recourse to bill the patient.
Mary Rheinecker expanded on this issue emphasizing that if a provider were to frequently document contact with the patient’s then the provider could show he did not know and could not be expected to know that the item would not be covered by Medicare (Limitation of Liability) and would have recourse to bill the patient if an overpayment should be determined.
Troy Paz also inquired as to whether an EOB sent to the patient serves as notification to the patient that the item continues to be billed to Medicare. He asked whether this would automatically place responsibility on the patient to notify the provider if it was no longer in use. Wade Hendrickson indicated that CMS confirmed on an open-door conference call that providers could bill the patient whenever equipment is deemed to be no longer in use.
F. ORTHOTICS & PROSTHETICS

Paul Webber, A-Team Leader indicated that the DAC is in the process of gathering examples for question #14.
Mr. Webber asked Dr. Hoover if Rehab question #9 relating to the distance a patient can walk with a cane, crutch, or walker in the determination of need for a wheelchair and how that rationale applies to patients with a lower extremity orthotic devices who also use a power wheelchair. Dr. Hoover responded that the interpretation of the wheelchair policy stipulates that the patient must be bed or

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chair confined. Patients’ with lower extremity orthotics should be ambulatory and their need for a wheelchair not necessary.
In addition, Mr. Webber thanked CIGNA for keeping the policy discussion for graduated compression stockings open.
G. INFUSION THERAPY

Mike Hayden, A-team Leader indicated that the DAC will work with CMS to further address question #17, but would like to keep Dr. Hoover in the loop on this issue. Dr. Hoover indicated that CMS would be in contact regarding the span date information.
H. RESPIRATORY

A-Team Leader Joe McKnight indicated that the A-Team would have questions for the next meeting. Dr. Hoover reported that the Oxygen and AED policies would be posted after 9/1/2003.
V. NEW BUSINESS

Gloria Peterson reported that the next DAC meeting with CIGNA is scheduled for October 10, 9:00am – 11:00am in Atlanta, GA. More information will be released when the meeting room assignment is received.
The meeting adjourned at 1:23 pm.

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Region D DMERC Advisory Committee
Meeting with CIGNA Medicare
October 10, 2003
�� 9:00a.m. (EST)
Georgia World Congress Center

DAC Representatives:
Violeta Arnobit Deanne Birch Sandy Carden
Cindy Coy Sha Eppley Velma Goertzen
Rick Graver Mike Hayden Wade Hendrickson
David Hosman John Kenny Janna Jurovich
Connie Lind-Fraher Laura McIlvaine Joe McKnight
Sharon Nichelson Troy Paz Rich Pozesky
Carlos Reyes Duane Ridenour Pat Spanel
Barb Stockert
CIGNA Representatives:
Robert Hoover, M.D., Medical Director – absent
Barbara Douglas Doug Frazier John Kelly
Miranda Kyles Mary Rheinecker
CMS Representative:
Lori O’Neil
I. GENERAL BUSINESS

The meeting was called to order at 9:00 am EST.
a. Introductions
Val Taylor of DAC representatives conducted role call, and CIGNA Medicare representatives introduced themselves and their respective roles.
b. Approval of Minutes

Minutes were reviewed and approved by Rich Pozesky and seconded by Laura McIlvaine.
II. MEDICAL REVIEW UPDATE

Mary Rheinecker spoke briefly of Dr. Hoover’s absence due to a previous continuing educational commitment. She went on to state the oxygen and AED policies are being published and to expect them in the Fall
DMERC Dialog ue. She indicated that the wheelchair seating policy is still being worked on and to expect it to be released in 2004 and the code request has been submitted to the Alpha-Numeric Workgroup.
Ms. Rheinecker also spoke about Operation Wheeler-Dealer and that the four DMERC Medical directors are currently reviewing the "bed or chair confined" requirement and appropriate


documentation required for power drive wheelchairs. They are also working on medical review policies and progressive correction actions. One focus will be to educate physicians, providers and beneficiaries, as to who in fact qualifies for these services.
The DAC inquired as to whether CIGNA would be auditing all suppliers for wheelchair claims. CIGNA answered no, but that it would continue to conduct supplier specific audits for wheelchairs based on data analysis findings and according to the PCA process.
Ms. Rheinecker cited continued efforts to educate physicians and suppliers about the CERT program and its importance to CMS and the contractors.
Ms. Rheinecker gave a HCPC code update for A, E & L codes, deleted codes, and new or revised descriptions. The release is scheduled for the Winter
DMERC Dialogue. Approximately ninety new codes are anticipated across the board.
Ms. Rheinecker also mentioned the new redesigned CIGNA website. The site is easier to navigate, new policy releases will be listed on the site, and a link has been added for provider suggestions on how to further improve the Web site.
Medical review will be hosting Webinars. The focus will be support surfaces & power drive wheelchairs and parenteral nutrition. Many will be limited to invitation only for the providers who may be involved in PCA. Net Courses will be available for all providers with focus on policies and documentation requirements.
III. PET ISSUES

Doug Frazier addressed the group with PET Issues. Doug mentioned that the Fall Seminar season is at capacity or near capacity and to register soon if you had not. He further stated the PET staff is down to 3 individuals to represent 40,000 providers. The focus of the seminars is to educate suppliers on resources available to those that are new to working with Medicare. The PET staff will also be doing Congressional Briefs identifying problems with Part A&B Carriers and CMS. Mr. Frazier stated 15 seminar sites would be available in the spring compared to 25 in the fall.
IV. A-TEAM RESPONSE TO Q&A

Education / Communication A-Team
CIGNA was thanked for the answers provided to the team’s questions.
Previously Submitted Question – July 2003. Re: Claims submissions to the wrong DMERC.
Clarification was asked for (which we submitted examples) on the previously asked question concerning the claims being "forwarded" to the "correct DMERC’s" when submitted to the "incorrect" DMERC by the provider. Does a provider need to be enrolled to bill electronically with each individual region for this to occur?
The answer was yes, i.e., for a claim sent to Region D by mistake to automatically forward to Region A, B, C the provider must be enrolled with both Regions D and the other applicable region (Region A, B, or C). The provider needs to have an EDI profile filled out at each DMERC this is only for electronic claims as mentioned, paper claims would not follow the same process


Standing Agenda Question #6 – HCPCS Coding
CIGNA was asked about two new S codes that are thought to be listed on Region C’s website, when we might see them on Region D’s site.
CIGNA indicated that they were not aware of any codes at this time and that they would be posted on the CMS website as opposed the CIGNA website.
Orthotics & Prosthetics
#17. Re: Denials for AFO’s because a patient has a powered mobility device.
The supplier should submit a hard copy appeal of the AFO denial. The basis of the appeal should be medical necessity. Documentation should be provided in the appeal information submitted to the DMERC that provides proof of the patient’s ability to ambulate.
CIGNA Medicare would like to review specific claim denials of AFO’s or similar O & P products where the Region D DMERC denial was based upon the beneficiary’s prior receipt of non-ambulatory DME. The DAC O & P Team will provide this information to the DMERC.
HOME MEDICAL EQUIPMENT (HME)
Question #10. Re: Capped rental CO57 denials.
Barb Stockert asked CIGNA to clarify the bullets in the answer to question this question. She specifically asked:
Q: Can we say that the condition of the patient has "changed" or must we be more explicit?
Mary Rheinecker replied "No. We need to know what the patient’s condition was, and what it is now. It must be clear to us that such a change would necessitate a change in equipment. Saying that the patient’s condition has "changed" or "improved" does not provide enough detail.
Q: We would also like to clarify whether it is necessary to provide a pick up ticket in such an example (Question 10). If the patient had equipment 7 years ago from a supplier who is unknown to us and/or a defunct company now, this is extraordinary work and research. Customer Service routinely tells us we need the pick up ticket, regardless of the situation.
Mary Rheinecker replied that she would have to look into this.
Previously Submitted Question #1
Barb Stockert asked CIGNA if the DAC could defer this question to a previous time. The DAC would like additional time to gather examples of the problem. CIGNA gave the Okay to defer the question.
RESPIRATORY
Question #21. Re: Sleep study requirements for CPAP.


The Respiratory A-Team wanted additional clarification to CIGNA’s answer and offered: If the RDI was an acceptable calculation methodology for provision of CPAP before the language was changed, why can we not use the data that was acceptable at that time. Many sleep labs do not have all the raw data available now more than a year later. RDI was calculated using a number of data points other than Apnea/Hypopnea indexing. Obtaining this data is difficult at best, and in some cases impossible. Again we ask, why can’t we use the original Data.
CIGNA indicated that they would have to respond to the DAC’s additional comments at a later date.
The DAC also noted: "Region C is doing a probe review in advance of payment on RAD (K0532/K0533). Is CIGNA looking to do a similar review and if so, what are they looking for?"
CIGNA indicated that they were not doing a probe review and did not normally do such reviews in advance of payments. The do reviews from benefit integrity side, but they are on specific vendors, not large scale probes like Region C.
EDI / EMC A-TEAM
Question 1. Re: Additional documentation requests on electronic claims.
Our answer was, on Denial or Development, Medical review would normally be the ones to ask for this information. Paper claims will still be accepted even after October 16, 2003 if we feel that the additional information needs to be submitted with the initial claim. This will cut down on double work for both the supplier and CIGNA Medicare.
Question 2B. Re: Drug claims with NDC coding.
Medicare is aware of crosswalk errors and are working with SADMERC to update and add new, SADMERC is in charge of the cross walking, if we submit a claim with the invalid NDC# the supplier will receive a denial and we will have to go to SADMERC for the correction.
Question 3A. Re: Duo-Neb Coding.
The supplier will submit duo-neb under the NDC# and Medicare will split out since the allowable on albuterol portion is .14, and the Ipratroprium portion is $3.34, they will do the calculations.
Question 4. Re: Dispensing fee coding.
Medicare will again split out the dispensing fee is the supplier is billing the allowable or above.
REHAB A-TEAM
Previously Submitted Question Re: Special sized E0192 cushions
The DAC representative indicated that the answer CIGNA provided was sufficient. CIGNA reported that the wheelchair cushion policy would be coming out next year with the new codes in January 2004.
Question #19. Re: Pediatric wheelchair coding


The DAC asked to obtain the "long descriptor" for the pediatric wheelchair HCPCS code, and the pediatric wheelchair with seating system code. Barbara Douglas with CIGNA will provide the descriptors to the DAC Rehab A-Team. The DAC also verified that incorrect coding determination could be made by the Medical Review Dept, or in the Pricing Dept.
Question #20. Re: CMN timeliness for ADMCs.
This issue relates to the time limit on CMN's as it relates to the initial date, signed date and date of service. The DAC explained to CIGNA that there may be issues with the time limit especially when obtaining authorization from secondary payors, and that the provision of a custom rehab wheelchair can take months to fit, build, document, etc. This was acknowledged by the DMERC, and the DAC’s request for 180 days from the initial date will be considered. We also stated that this would bring the policy closer to the ADMC policy, which is 6 months from the date of affirmative determination.
CIGNA understood the DAC’s request and will consider it.
INFUSION THEREAPY A-TEAM
Thanked CIGNA for answering the IV "A" Team questions.
Question #12. Re: TPN claims documentation requirements.
Claims that currently have to be submitted on paper with attachments, example TPN and Inotropic claims, after October 16th, 2003 will providers continue to submit claims the same way. CIGNA indicated that providers should continue to submit claims requiring attachments on paper until instructed to do otherwise.
The meeting adjourned.

Region D DAC Meeting with CIGNA
May 7, 2003
�� 3:00pm – 5:00pm
Las Vegas Convention Center
Las Vegas, NV
MINUTES


DAC Participants:
Wade Hendrickson, Chair Marty Adrian Dolly Baughman
Reid Bellis Deanne Birch Bruce Brothis
Kim Brummett Evan Call Sandy Carden
Dale Cleveland James Conroy Yvonne Cordoza
Asela Cuervo Vince DeStigter Linda Edwards
Larraine Forry Velma Goertzen Rick Graver
Chuck Gunther Maureen Hanna Craig Harris
Mike Hayden Tom Heinrich Gary Hill
Zena Jacobi Tami Joplin Mary Kellner
John Kenney Herb Langsam Janet Lehmann
Miriam Lieber Connie Lind-Fraher Laura McIlvaine
Joe McKnight Sharon Nichelson Glen Noble
Troy Paz Gloria Peterson Marchall Pollock
Rich Pozesky Rachel Ratcliff Leslie Rigg
Bruce Rodman Kimberly Rogers-Bowers
Robb Rose Kris Russell-Bono Sheila Showalter
Cheryl Socha Penelope Solis Pat Spanel
Barb Stockart Martin Szmal Val Taylor
Margarita Turner Mary Turner Rosalie Weber
CIGNA Representatives:
Robert Hoover, M.D. Carrie Brown Doug Frazier
Melissa Kirchenbauer Frank Mantero Mary Rheinecker
Amanda Zumwalt
CMS Representative:
Lauri O’Neil
I. GENERAL BUSINESS
Val Taylor, DAC Secretary conducted roll call of the State Representatives and A-Team Leaders.
Wade Hendrickson acknowledged that the meeting protocol had been reviewed at the DAC
meeting held May 6 and asked participants to be mindful of the meeting format outlined in the
protocol.
The proposed calendar for upcoming meetings with CIGNA for 2003-2004 was presented. Wade
Hendrickson acknowledged that there might be an error in the date for Medtrade Fall and that the
DAC would be verifying the date.
II. MEDICAL DIRECTOR UPDATE
Dr. Hoover reviewed the list of Local Medical Review Policies (LMRPs) that will be in effect
October 1, 2003. He noted that the revised oxygen and wheelchair policies are not included and
that the earliest release date for these policies would be October with a January 1, 2004
implementation date.
A summary of the Comprehensive Error Rate Testing (CERT) Program was provided. Dr.
Hoover indicated that it is a means for the carriers to improve efficiencies. He reported that more
details would be given at this session scheduled on May 8.
The issue of physician education was discussed. Dr. Hoover reported that a letter has been sent to
physicians’ publications educating them on the ICD-9 coding issue.
He then reviewed a list of articles that will appear in the upcoming DMERC Dialogue. One
article will specifically address EY modifier usage.
Dr. Hoover reported that provider access to the Common Working File is still being discussed
with CMS. He indicated that CMS is exploring options to accommodate limited provider access
to the CWF. He also updated the DAC on the status of the Proof of Delivery Policy paper that
was forward to CMS by CIGNA. He reported that CMS has an active workgroup with the intent
of resolving concerns with the Proof of Delivery policy.
Wade Hendrickson asked for clarification on the same or similar information that providers are
able to access by calling CIGNA customer services. Melissa Kirchenbauer reported that there has
been a change in the information that providers are able to access for patients with an established
relationship with the requesting provider. The information that will be given includes names of
previous suppliers, HCPCS codes of like items, CMN initial dates, and dates of previous
purchases.
Troy Paz asked for clarification on how an "established" relationship is determined. An
"established" relationship is whenever the provider has billed a claim to Medicare on behalf of
the beneficiary. Melissa Kirchenbauer also clarified that nothing has changed on a pre-claim
basis. Suppliers wanting to obtain same or similar information on a pre-claim basis will still need
to get the beneficiary’s consent. Same or Similar information may be given on a post-claim basis
if the claim is denied against another piece of equipment. Dr. Hoover added that providers who
have obtained the beneficiary’s authorization to provide a piece of equipment could also access
this information.
III. OMBUDSMAN UPDATE
Doug Frazier reviewed Kathy Brock’s new position within CIGNA provider relations and
announced that Steve Wiseman is the new EDI Supervisor at CIGNA. He also reported that the
DMERC Supplier Manual and DMERC Dialogues would be available via CD ROM in
September. Suppliers will have the option to continue receiving these publications in hard copy.
a. PET Issues
It was reported that Provider Education and Training Department is no longer taking live
calls. Doug also indicated that CIGNA plans to schedule its Fall Seminar in 25 sites in all
17 Region D states and that more details will be forthcoming.
b. PCOM Update
PCOM will be comprised of 25 core members based on specialty. The DAC will have
two representatives who can sit on the committee. He clarified that DMERC education
and communication problems should still filter through the appropriate Region D DAC
A-Team.
Doug also reported that a DMERC Dialogue article will be published clarifying that the official
version of a medical review policy will be the version posted on CIGNA’s website.
IV. TOLL FREE PROVIDER LINE UPDATE
Melissa Kirchenbauer reviewed the rational behind CIGNA’s split to two provider lines. A
review of suppliers’ denial of access to the phone lines forced CIGNA to review the need to
improve. The split in lines has already reduced the blockage by 35%.
Melissa thanked the DAC for its feedback. Based on the DAC’s feedback CIGNA is currently
working to get claims-in-process as part of the call in feature. They will also continue to work
towards addressing the DAC’s other suggestions.
V. POLICY QUESTIONS
a. Documentation of Continued Use – Dr. Hoover commented that the samples
provided by suppliers participating in the DAC seemed to contain all of the
information necessary to document continued use. He cannot specifically approve
these forms; however, no information stands out as missing from the samples.
b. Timely Filling Guidelines – The following question was provided by the DAC:
If a provider submits a claim within 1 year from the date of service on a product
to Medicare, they should be meeting timely filing deadlines. If that provider gets
denied on the same claim which met the timely filing deadline originally but the
resubmission falls outside of the one year, does this claim get denied for falling
outside of the timely filing or shouldn't that just apply to the original claim
submission?
Mary Rheinecker responded that each claim stands alone; therefore if a claim
requires resubmission it would stand-alone when determining timeliness. Wade
Hendrickson asked for clarification in an appeal scenario.
ACTION ITEM Melissa Kirchenbauer will analyze how timelines applies to
appeals and provide a response.
VI. A-TEAM LEADERS REVIEW ANSWERS PROVIDED BY CIGNA
a. EDI/EMC
Zena Jacobi thanked CIGNA for its responses.
b. EDUCATION / COMMUNICATION
Connie Lind-Fraher indicated that Dr. Hoover already clarified their question regarding the EY
modifier.
c. HME
Barb Stockert asked for additional information on question No. 8 regarding the difficulties
providers experiencing getting ER physicians to sign CMNs. She asked whether a timeline for
the physician education on this issue has been established.
Dr. Hoover responded that a timeline had not been established but he hoped to have it completed
in the near future.
d. INFUSION THERAPY
The IV A-Team had no questions to follow up on at the time of the meeting, and thanked
CIGNA.
e. MEDICAL SUPPLIES
Pat Spanel asked whether CIGNA had any additional feedback on the following previously
submitted questions:
#1. Does CIGNA have any updates on the DAC question regarding immediate relatives’ ability
to bill Medicare on behalf of beneficiaries? Mary Rheinecker responded that this is a longstanding
policy and CIGNA would still defer the question to CMS. (Please refer to Medicare
Carriers Manual Chapter 2, Sections 2332.A, 2332.B, 2332.C, and 2332.E)
#2. Pat asked if there were any more updated on the potential conflict between the Paperwork
Reduction Act and routine requests for additional information. Dr. Hoover responded that
CIGNA is constantly aware of PRA regulations and communicates frequently with CMS in
attempt to prevent conflicts.
f. REHAB
Rick Graver asked for clarification to the following questions:
# 14 Rick clarified "material submitted" regards information submitted with a claim. Dr. Hoover
indicated that the Rehab A-Team could submit other material for his review on this subject.
#15 – Clarification was given as to what suppliers should be billing these types of manual tilt in
space wheelchairs as K0009 for purchase up until July 1, 2003, and that any claims for codes
E1161, or E1231, through E1238 that have processed as rentals for between January 1 and July 1
may be submitted as a purchase after July 1CIGNA recognized that this item is not a capped
rental item and began approving ADMCs under K0009.
In regards to the previously submitted question on reimbursement of special sized cushions, Rick
asked if the cushion itself should be billed as K0108 only or as two lines with K0108 as the up
charge for the special size. Some providers had indicated that they had been reimbursed when the
cushion was billed as E0192 and the up charge for special size billed under K0108. CIGNA could
not answer the question, and asked us to wait for more clarification on how to bill this item.
g. RESPIRATORY
Joe McKnight asked for clarification to question #16. He stated, "Does the DMERC require that the third
test for hypoxemia during exercise with oxygen be done on the same day as the other two tests recognizing
that some physicians don't have oxygen present in their office at the time of the initial test?"
Dr Hoover responded that under ideal testing scenarios, for scientific accuracy, the test would optimally be
done at the same time as the other tests, but he recognized that some physicians and labs don't have oxygen
present and would need to contact a homecare company to initiate oxygen on the patient, on the order of a
physician to complete the test. That said, he saw no requirement that the test be done on the same day as
the other two. He further stated that this policy would, in all probability, be clarified with the new oxygen
guidelines.
h. ORTHOTICS & PROSTHETICS
John Kenney requested clarification on the following questions:
# 11. Replacement Interface Liner / Covers
Is there automatic claim denial if the supplier bills as recommended with a miscellaneous code
rather than using the L4210 repair code?
Dr. Hoover indicated that if the HA0 record contains the information required by the DMERC,
the claim should be paid with electronic submission. In the HA0 record, the supplier must provide
the following:
• Date the orthotic was purchased
• Statement of why the interface is being replaced
• Suggested retail price or manufacturer’s invoice price.
In the Ankle-Foot/ Knee-Ankle-Foot Orthosis medical policy, a replacement interface is covered
as long as the patient continues to meet the indications and other coverage rules for the orthotic.
Coverage is limited to one replacement interface every six months. Does the DMERC policy for
replacement interface liners cover six-month replacement for all orthotics?
Dr. Hoover indicated that replacement would be covered only if a medical policy specifies a sixmonth
replacement. The DMERC recognizes that a policy for useful lifetime of interface liners
needs to be addressed.
With the new clarification from the DMERC that "irreparable wear" is not a valid reason for
replacement of an orthotic, the five-year useful life determination becomes a greater issue. How
was the five-year useful life determined and how can it be changed to more accurately reflect
reasonable lifetime for orthotic products?
Dr. Hoover indicated that useful lifetime was determined by congress for DMEPOS. Only the
Secretary of DHHS can change the policy.
# 12. Denials for Replacement Interface Liners / Covers if the Initial Provider is not the
Dispensing Replacement Cover Provider.
The DMERC would like to see actual denied claims to research this issue.
ACTION ITEM The O & P Team will seek claims to provide to the DMERC.
How does a supplier access information (CWF) to determine who provided the initial orthotic or
to determine if a new product may be "same or similar"?
Melissa Kirchenbauer responded that the IVR can be used AFTER a claim has been submitted by
the supplier with the approval of the beneficiary to determine who provided the initial orthotic
and what device was provided.
The O & P Team is grateful for the access to this information. The greater issue is determining
PRIOR to delivery if same or similar equipment has been provided. What is the status of access to
the Common Working File for O & P professionals?
This is an ongoing discussion item with the DAC. The DAC Executive Committee addresses this
topic on a regular basis with the DMERC and will provide an update when available.
Previously Submitted Question – January 2002 – Non-elastic type compression benefit category
CMS has not issued a benefit category determination at this time. A decision should be
forthcoming. It has received CMS attention, and a decision on a benefit category for these
products should be out before year-end.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business.
The meeting adjourned.